Natural Game Forum by Zan Perrion - General Discussion http://www.naturalgame.com en Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:28:40 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.naturalgame.com/images/misc/rss.jpg Natural Game Forum by Zan Perrion - General Discussion http://www.naturalgame.com My goals for 30 days http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9140&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:02:39 GMT ---Quote--- Beginning: Monday, 13th September Ending: Sunday, 10th October PHYSICAL - I will go to the gym 4 days a week and ensure adequate...
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Beginning: Monday, 13th September
Ending: Sunday, 10th October

PHYSICAL
- I will go to the gym 4 days a week and ensure adequate protein intake to build a noticeable amount of muscle.
- I will attend the fitness class at least twice a week to improve my level of fitness.
- I will attend the local running event of the year.
- I will do exercises 2-3 times a day to improve my posture.
- I will record how much water I drink per day and ensure it's a minimum of 8 50cl bottles.
- I will record how many portions of fruit and veg I have per day and ensure it's at least 3 of each.

AVATAR
- I will moisturise everyday.
- I will brush my teeth and use mouthwash everyday.
- I will learn how to properly trim my fingernails and take better care of them.

MENTAL
- I will take a course in college to improve my learning.
- I will question things more to improve my understanding of the world and other people.

SPIRITUAL
- I will practice Tantra.

COLLEGE
- I will avoid showing up late.
- I will talk to at least one new person every week.
- I will speak up more in class.

SOCIAL
- I will approach and talk with one new person everyday.
- I will be more confident and friendly when I talk to people.
- I will go to a club at least once a week.
- I will post once a day on the Natural Forums.
- I will ignore the awkwardness in any 'awkward' situations I experience.
Credit goes to J.Pender for helping me come up with most of these goals.
Can you think of anything else I could add? ]]> General Discussion Bro1989 http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9140 How to Figure Out WHAT I WANT? http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9139&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:52:30 GMT David X says, "If you don't even know what you want don't bother me." So I really started asking myself if I know what I want. Lately I've been confused. I just broke up with my girlfriend 5 days ago because she didn't want sex in any form...some other things too, but that was the main issue (See my introductory post for details). Now I'm single again and hate it! I'm remembering the constant anxiety of passing girls on the street, at the apartment complex, in libraries, at festivals, etc. I don't like being single. It's uncomfortable.

I'm not exactly sure what I want. It would be nice to feel comfortable through my loneliness, but it's awful. I don't want to just fuck girls either. I don't want to be constantly going through a cycle of them and meeting new ones. The process can be fun and exciting, but I think I'd rather just find someone descent and settle with her and tie my dick in a knot and get married. ]]> General Discussion insipidtoast http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9139 <![CDATA[How to create 'Warmth&Affinity' when you already have Attraction?]]> http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9137&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:31:30 GMT Hi, I'd like to keep this post short and simple, so that people who have opinions will want to answer. I'm wondering how one can create/maintain warmth/affinity/rapport with a woman after meeting her, or at least in the early dating stages. I absolutely don't mean this in an egotistical or stuck-up way but I've observed over the years that I usually don't have a problem attracting women (many people around me tell me that I have some good looks and all).

So what I'm wondering is how to take it farther from the Attraction stage into Comfort (while still maintaining attraction)? I've noticed that trial&error is the best teacher of anything, but the wisdom of others would be very very helpful. :rolleyes: ]]> General Discussion NaturalGame11 http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9137 The nerd and the cheerleader - Fallacies of high social status http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9134&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:00:37 GMT I've been thinking a lot recently about this seemingly default model that most guys operate under when it comes to girls. I've been working under these assumptions for years without realizing it. These are some raw thoughts that have not been sorted or well organized. Take them with a grain of salt.

(Note: European members please forgive me in advance if this doesn't make any sense to you, it's only a metaphor to explain a larger model of high/low social status and how that affects us. Also, there is no need to bring counter examples here, this is again meant as a way to demonstrate this fallacy.)

In high school, it's all a game of status. Girls are trying to gain more status by associating with other high status girls or by dating the high status guy, typically some athlete (American football or basketball) who seek higher status themselves through accomplishments, etc. For many, the game of chasing higher status doesn't change even as they enter adulthood and grow. The nerd can't even begin to think about going up to the popular girl (e.g. the cheerleader). If he did, he would experience a tremendous amount of anxiety which is known as status anxiety. He knows that if he even tries, he will be rejected and ridiculed for days on end. Later in life, when he sees a pretty girl in a bar, he assumes she's the "popular" girl he could never get in high school and so despite trying. He then will try to approach, but status anxiety will stop him. After all, she probably has a popular guy as a boyfriend right?

So what is the nerd to do? He will go back to the drawing board and try to come up with schemes and techniques to land the hot "popular" girl. Thus begins the journey into a PUA. Let's look for a second into what happens if he does get the girl. He will be overjoyed! This is perceived as a major win in several levels: sleeping with a hot girl = high status = win; sleeping with many girls = high status = win; sleeping with the popular girl you couldn't get in high school = sweet revenge = major win; getting one over the jocks = sweet revenge = major win.

And so the typical nerdy guy, never grows out of his shadow. He carries this high status fallacy with him throughout life and uses it as his only model of interacting with women. For him, life turns into a battle for higher and higher status as if this will bring happiness. The best it can do, unfortunately, is give you short spurts of a high that eventually will fade into nothingness and prompt you to seek even stronger highs, like the adrenaline junkie seeking harder and harder feats in search for an elusive high.

As you can see, this is where true "inner game" takes place. This model covers all the bases. There is no need to go into approach anxiety specifically and deal with that, or go into the need for validation and work on it. If you're the popular guy, you have no approach anxiety, you have no craving for validation because it's as if it's always been given to you so you've come to expect it.

There are however major drawbacks with this model of seeking higher status. First, in this day and age we don't really know what constitutes higher value, aside from what we learned in high school. So we fall pray to marketing that promises to get us the hot girl, the fancy car, the big house, and so on which all lead to high status and to a drug induced high (in your brain of course)

The question of course is, how do we break out of this model and replace it with something far more useful? ]]> General Discussion EricJames http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9134 Loving yourself with ambition http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9131&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:22:12 GMT Ive been at this for a while and have heard many PU theories. Name it I have heard it before. Cocky and Funny, Push-Pull, Indifference, social-circle... Ive been at this for a while and have heard many PU theories. Name it I have heard it before. Cocky and Funny, Push-Pull, Indifference, social-circle game. I have heard them all before. When I first started this I wanted to learn all the PU things without really having to change who I was. I think that was what attracted me to Natural game and Zans philosophy or whatever you want to call it.

I think whenever I have learned something whenever I go out and talk to chicks it always ends up the same damn thing. It always goes back to loving who you are and always staying positive. That is usually followed by, "well in order for you to love who you are you have to do this for yourself blah blah." Well what I find out is that I am right when I say this only because I beleive it. Well I think I am right when I say this in some aspect. Maybe I project this into my world.

Whatever it is, its not a bad thing. I think I can love and accept who I am, really take responsibility for whatever happens to me. However I dont think this enough. I think that ambition, passion and drive is what really gets that accross to people. At least I think its what women respond to.

I think when people give that advice be yourself it can be bad because the person he is giving that advice to doesnt like who he/she is. Which is what is missing from that advice in my opinion. However what is also missing from the individual recieving the advice is the fire inside and that real desire to become the best person that they want to be. I think its always there but not always easily accessed.

Whats missing is that ambition. That ambition to go out there and talk to women. Say what you really want to say to them. That ambition to go after the things that you want. I mean its really has to be that or guys who struggle with women are just scared of womens rejection. Which I think I struggle with a lot. I do think that if I had a little more ambition with this love and acceptance i have for myself would really spark my potential and get things improving instead of a constant think of what I need to do.

I know I need to get in shape and I have to get better socially. I am not totally with it as far as what people like to talk about or what people think is cool. I mean that doesnt bother me that much because I am not too concerned about whats cool. Id like to be inspired you know. When I first started with this all it was like I was so ambitious about it. Now I just kind of feel like I dont need to anything if all I need to do is love who I am and accept myself. I just feel like that gets me nowhere. In the end I know none of this really matters and that life is not to be taken seriously. I like this but we also just have one life.

I need to ignite that inspiration again. Thoughts? ]]> General Discussion Evan http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9131 The second time around...sorta... http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9117&goto=newpost Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:59:29 GMT Quick refresher: The past 2 weeks I've been dating a girl who has a million and one similarities to the girl who dumped me almost 2 months ago. They are as follows:

- They are both Hmong
- They both have 3 kids (and the new girl has a daughter with the same name as my ex)
- They drive the same car
- They both have incredibly stressful careers
- They both have physically abusive asshole ex-husbands
- They have both fallen head-over-heels for me, albeit one was in the past and one is happening now

In fact, one of my coworkers asked me "did you hope for a do-over??" Because that's almost EXACTLY what is happening! It still freaks me out a little.

Anyway, the first girl, who we will call MK, was infatuated with me until she discovered I'm a human being with flaws. So she gradually lost interest and dumped me, and it fucked me up pretty bad.

That is, until I met the second girl, who we will call SH. She is currently infatuated with me, and it feels a little TOO much like things did with MK. I still feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone right now.

As you might imagine, I'm constantly in fear of losing SH just like I did with MK. My role for both girls has been identical: I'm the ESCAPE from their crazy, hectic lives. And unfortunately, just being an "escape" isn't enough to keep someone around for very long.

I only have a few guesses as to why MK lost interest in me: the sex was bad, I didn't seem confident enough, I eventually bored her, she found another guy, etc.

Already, sex has not gone well with SH. I can't get off, and I can't get her off either. Regardless, so far she has really seemed to enjoy being intimate with me, probably to a greater extent than MK did actually. Or at least that's what she says. But it can't go on like this forever, where sex just isn't working out.

I just really don't want to fuck things up with SH like I did with MK. Infatuations are hard to deal with--when the initial high wears off, you find out the person you're infatuated with isn't who you hoped they were.

What can you guys suggest? I want to brainstorm some ideas, because I obviously do NOT want things to end the same way with SH as they did with MK. ]]> General Discussion Harp http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9117 <![CDATA[Sean talks about what it's like to be REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD LOOKING!]]> http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9115&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:34:26 GMT Image: http://i52.tinypic.com/1phsnc.jpg Man, life is soooo good being really really good looking. You know, as I write this, a hot blonde is on...

Man, life is soooo good being really really good looking. You know, as I write this, a hot blonde is on my left, feeding me grapes because I'm so hot. A stunning brunette is on my right, caressing my shoulders and whispering sweet nothings into my ear. I am a stunning man. And life is good. Everywhere I go women check me out. Sometimes they even faint at the mere sight of my manly manliness. When I walk, it always looks like wind is blowing through my hair -- even when I'm indoors. The sun seems to make special effort to shine it's rays on me, being careful not to cast unsightly shadows that could potentially obscure my natural beauty. Who needs art when one could simply gaze upon me, in all my spectacular glory?

Even animals check me out. One time, a sparrow tried to seduce me by serenading me with a special song written just for me. And actually, I could've sworn that yesterday a tree was making sexy eyes at me. Hey, what can I say? I'm a hot piece of ass...

(Ok, enough of that.)

So, taking a look at recent threads in this forum, I want to address a couple things. First, Iulian's farewell thread and his mentioning of me as being possibly "the best looking guy" on this forum. Secondly, I want to respond to The Patient's recent thread.

Iulian, thanks for the compliment, but the truth is, I am but a pimple on a pig's ass in comparison to Lightsleeper. He's dreamy....

(Ok ok...:D)

I know that The Patient and perhaps others think that life for good looking people is similar to my opening paragraphs and that we get some sort of sick thrill out of attempting to help guys be successful with women...but the truth is that I genuinely enjoy it. I've been doing it as a hobby for several years now.

What you guys don't realize is just how many times I get rejected, have been rejected, and have been dumped over the years. What you also don't realize is that I actually have a weight problem. I really have to bust my ass in the gym and watch my eating like a hawk these days. You also don't realize that there are a lot of girls who simply aren't attracted to me at all.

The subject of looks and dating is an interesting topic, and is something that I've personally spent boatloads of time researching. If you're familiar with me and my philosophy on things, you know that I am a realist, and that I believe in facts over delusion, and that real progress can only be made through understanding as opposed to delusion. Clarity is the name of the game, and I believe in telling people what they need to hear rather than telling people what they want to hear.

Some of you know that one of my pet peeves are "gurus" in this industry who hustle delusions like, "looks don't matter." Especially when the "guru" is good looking himself. It's a classic example of telling guys what they want to hear without giving them the full truth. I can't say with honesty that "looks don't matter" for two reasons. One, I've personally experienced it throughout my life, so how could I possibly say it doesn't matter...and two, I know that eventually you'll run into a girl(s) who will admit that looks do matter. Once that happens, you would realize that I was simply just telling you what you want to hear.

Now here's the point where most guys make a CRITICAL mistake in logic. The mistake goes something like this, "Well if looks do in fact matter, I don't look like Brad Pitt, therefore girls won't like me." Wrong! Flat out fucking wrong! Males have the tendency to be natural experts in logical fallacies. Especially, especially when it comes to women and dating.

Even if physical attraction is important to both sexes as a statistical average, what I've realized over the years is that it is far, FAR more important for a woman to be "pretty" than it is for a man to be "handsome." No question about it. The main difference is that for men, a pretty girlfriend is a near universal requirement but for women, having a boyfriend who is good looking is considered more of a "bonus." The reasons for this are complex, but here's a simplified answer. Because of the way men are wired, fewer criteria enables attraction to women (her looks, friendly personality), and more criteria enables women to be attracted to men (status, personality, confidence, humor, demeanor, creativity, talents, your look, etc.) Women evolved with very different mating preferences. In other words, when looking at the "triggers" so to speak for attraction, women have a wider scope of "triggers" than men do.

This is the reason why you see a lot of beautiful girls with average or even ugly men. What they lack in the physical department, they make up for in other areas. Sometimes they are wealthy, or have attained fairly high status - so watch for that. Other times they're just confident and have a great sense of humor. And actually, you'd be surprised to find just how often these girls do find these "ugly guys" to be attractive! Women are funny, you never know who they're going to be attracted to. It's totally unpredictable.

Several girls I've dated showed me pictures of ex-boyfriends. I'm been astonished at some of them. Absolutely flabbergasted. One girl, who was unbelievably gorgeous showed me a pic of her ex and I swear to god he looked like a toad. You just never know with girls. They don't think like us. And by the way, statistically speaking, a marriage is more likely to last if the wife is better looking than the husband and she's also more likely to be happier in the relationship. Food for thought...

Some of you have read about some of the players I've known and worked with in the free special report I wrote recently. One of these days I plan on doing some interviews with them so you can see these guys. Most are just average, at best.

So anyway, all I'm trying to say is that things haven't always been easy for me in this area. When I was younger I was "lucky" a lot. I got my first "girlfriend" in 5th grade by asking her out in front of the entire class, and my first real serious girlfriend when I was 16. I lost my virginity at 17. It was sheer luck. I do think it had to do with my appearance along with being a friendly guy. But I sure as hell wasn't some sort of player, or even had a lot of skill, and believe it or not, I was usually the "dumpee" instead of being the "dump-er." In fact my high school sweetheart dumped me 1 week before prom. That was fun, let me tell you. I was friends with players though, and I learned a lot from them, though it took a while to sink in.

Things didn't get any easier for me once I went to college. In fact it got harder. It wasn't really until my mid 20's when I was mentored by an old pro who really took me under his wing and set me straight and put me on a clear path. Then my results finally started being more consistent.

So I'd like to end this post with the following. Consider this...from a biological, genetic perspective, all of you come into this world primed for success with women as you are. You all come from a gene pool that was selected and chosen by women. Are you not? Your ancestors were all successful in finding a woman. Your father was successful. His father was successful. The mere fact that you are alive today is proof that you are desirable and that the very genes you carry were selected by women. That's an important thing to remember.

Take care of yourself, hit the gym, eat right and dress well, but let the girls worry about being "pretty." You just concern yourself with being proud of who you are, work hard to achieve your goals, define what you want and go for it, and walk with some muthafuckin' swagger. You'll get what you want. ]]> General Discussion Sean http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9115 Why it is so complicated? http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9111&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:32:37 GMT Yes, I'm kind of frustrated on women and all the hassle about getting them to meet you on a date. Couple of month ago I read Bdannyocean who said that most men hate women, and yes, I might not hate women, but I feel very frustrated with them quite often.

Their ways are so indirect and they never seem to be honest with me.

I want the girls to be eager to meet me. To be easy to get on a date. And to show no hesitance.

I'm actually quite fond of ONS. Because when you meet a girl that way, she know what she can expect, and it's relatively easy to meet her again. And the communication gets that much easier.

In short: My communication with girls seems to be so much more honest, so much more direct and upfront after I've slept with a girl. Yes it might be me that feel that now "I've had her" and I'm more willing to let her go if she proves to be too much trouble. And I don't feel I have to come up with these fasade about being so extremely outcome-independent and seeming so cool and indifferent when in fact I like sex very much, want to get it and get kind of irritated and sad each time I talk to a girl for a long time and she rejects me.

So maybe is it this that Johnny Soporno is talking about? Getting the honest communication going before ending up in bed together?

What am I doing wrong? I seem to be working so hard in order to get a girl to go on a date with me...but it happens not that often? Am I too dishonest? Too outcome-dependent? Not enough creative in my messages? Maybe my profile picture isn't hot enough? ]]> General Discussion klossowski http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9111 How to improve dating in America http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9104&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:10:56 GMT Many people wonder about the difference between dating in the Western World vs. the rest of the world. Anything you do to meet women will be much... Many people wonder about the difference between dating in the Western World vs. the rest of the world. Anything you do to meet women will be much easier in cultures where people look at you in the eyes and talk with their neighbors. But what if you live in Las Vegas, New-York or Montreal?

It is much easier to learn natural seduction and to develop charisma by traveling abroad, but eventually you’ll be back to your home country. With what I teach, getting laid is the easiest thing in the world. Just find one or two joyful, intuitive and loving women and you have an unlimited supply of quality sex. However, even finding the perfect woman will not solve the problem of loneliness and social disconnectedness. For example, I often have girls coming to my apartment in downtown Montreal, but in 16 months, I still haven’t spoken with my neighbors or had eye contact with them. So what can you do about it? First, become aware of the ambient culture around you. It’s like telling a fish what water is. He will never know until he gets out of it. Second, detach yourself emotionally from your cultural environment so you can be more open and vibe at much higher frequencies. Third, be a living example of another way of living and inspire people. Fourth, this is a cultural movement. Support the movement of restoring the emotional inter-connectedness in our society, of bringing back the feminine, intuitive and supportive aspect of live, and of living from our heart instead of from our head.

What if you can only find masculine independent women around you? It’s great for short-term fun but you won’t experience the same emotional intimacy. You’ll get drama instead. My advice is have fun with independent masculine women and the day you want something deeper or more serious, find a foreign woman or find one abroad. The divorce rate in America is over 50%, so unless you want to experience the same, do something different. Relationships are not only difficult for men but also for independent women. What are they going to do? Just solve your dating and relationship problems, you don’t have to take these women’s problems on your shoulders. If these women also want to improve their relationships, tell them to come see me to develop their femininity, to flow with life and to be more in their heart and body. ]]> General Discussion BodyGuard101 http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9104 What is the essence of a natural? http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9103&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:42:49 GMT Self explantry I have seen Zans definition of natural game which was great and had clarity but I would to know you guys view on this interesting... Self explantry I have seen Zans definition of natural game which was great and had clarity but I would to know you guys view on this interesting topic. I have the potential to be a natural but I think to much, waste to much time and am to intense to class myself to be anywhere near a natural my definition of is a guy who has fluid process meeting women wheather they get the girl or not they are relaxed, spontanious, have a good timing, good vibe and mentality towards women. ]]> General Discussion London Lothario http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9103 How to deal with bitchy women http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9101&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:26:21 GMT A big part of empowering your dating and social life is to become aware of the culture you live in. It’s like telling a fish what water is, he will... A big part of empowering your dating and social life is to become aware of the culture you live in. It’s like telling a fish what water is, he will never know until he gets out of it. Besides going out of the country, the best way to become aware of your culture is to look at the clearest role models.

First look at this video. It’s a very funny video made out of fun. It portrays neediness but in a humoristic and respectful way.

The Lonely Island - Jizz In My Pants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

Now look at this video response from a woman. It may be funny but it’s made out of anger, dismissiveness and arrogance. It portrays one of the most toxic aspects of the North-American culture by associating puking with pleasure and by associating disgust with social interactions.

MsTaken.com - Puke In My Mouth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJsQcnB6GC0

People leave two kinds of feedback. Either “waaaa thez girlzz are sso hott I wanna BANG them ALL!!” or “that’s crap and it takes the fun out of the original video”. Nobody says they would actually enjoy spending time with these girls other than a quick bang. These girls treat men like shit. The sad truth is that there are many women living like you see in the video, and the way you do one thing is the way you do everything.

A conventional goal for ladies men is to attract hotter women. I would suggest reframing this into attracting better experiences with women. It’s not just about the physical look, it’s all about the overall experience you’re living with them. Let’s look at how to handle independent bitchy women.

If you’re in a relationship with such a woman, don’t think she’ll treat you differently than the rest of the people. The way they do one thing is the way they do everything, so even if you sleep with her, the next day she’ll take her independence back and treat you like a wimp. If things are going great in the relationship, she’ll eventually treat you like she treats everybody whenever there will be any kind of problem in the relationship. So how do you solve this? Take a ride with her, drop her off the road, keep driving and see the problem getting smaller and smaller in the mirror. Their drama does not have to part of your experience in life.

Lots of men are thrown off by such women in bars and clubs. They become afraid of talking with women, they can’t enjoy socializing and they get emotionally thrown off by their rude behaviors. How do you handle that? The hardest part is probably not to be emotionally affected by them as their aggressiveness is very contagious. The easiest way to detach yourself emotionally from them is to realize this is only a social façade covering a more gentle nature. The games they play only lead to fantasy and not to reality. Becoming aware of what a real woman is and becoming aware of how natural connection with women happens is the best way to detach yourself from independent women and to not want anything form them. The only way to get physical with these women is to be even more independent than they are, and it’s not worth it. The best relationships I had so far were always the ones that happened the most effortlessly. Once you are not emotionally affected by these women anymore, you want to keep a great social and open vibe when you’re going out. When you talk with half the people in the bar and come across a rude independent woman or group of women, just tell them in a calm way “If you’re not here to socialize and if you treat people like shit, stay the f*** home” and move on. If dozens of guys tell them, they’ll eventually get the message and bars will be an open place where you can socialize and enjoy conversations with people.

The biggest part of this is to realize there are other social dynamics that exist. Things can be different. Look at this video to experience a totally different reality. You’ll see a huge contrast. This is the kind of vibe you want to have when you go out. Watch this video 5 times in a row and really feel the energy. Soak in the energy.

Natural Grounding 'SuperHalo' Shakti Meditation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IL6kx_y2vw

Living a great dating and social life is like growing a gorgeous and colorful garden. Weed doesn’t respect the beauty of the other flowers and they try to take all the space. Take out the weed, plant flowers, value these flowers and take care of them. That’s the best way to have a great garden. Do the same with your social life. Most girls are neither a pure angel nor a pure bitch. They are a mix in-between and have both aspects within them to varying degrees. You can bring out the angelic side of them through the way you feel, through what you value and through how you expect them to behave. However, it’s always easier and better to select than to train women. ]]> General Discussion BodyGuard101 http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9101 Robert Pattinson http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9099&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:48:50 GMT Hey guys, what do you think about him? Is he a natural? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiF0vNHe4vM Hey guys,

what do you think about him?
Is he a natural?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiF0vNHe4vM ]]> General Discussion Mitho http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9099 How To Be Happy http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9096&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:43:16 GMT A few months ago I wasn't feeling very happy with life as my relationship was going pretty rubbish. At the time I stumbled across this great little website with some excellent practical tips:

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Happy

The two things that really hit home for me were number 6 and number 8.
Number 6 - Smile more. I had realised at how little I was smiling. Smiling is you actually giving value to other people and it's amazing how just forcing yourself to smile can lift your mood. I am now actively trying to smile especially first thing in the morning. It's a win-win as it makes you happier and those around you happier.

Number 8 - Be grateful for what you have. This is really in line with the Secret which I also rediscovered a few months back. Every morning and every evening I now think about what I am grateful for. Doing this made me realise how lucky I am at I time when I was really down. I have a great family, awesome friends, I job I enjoy, great colleagues and a supportive boss, some savings put aside and I am a fit young man. I have tried to take the view of "What more could I ask for" rather than I want to find love.

I hope some of you also find this article useful.

Keep smiling and remember you are amazing! ]]> General Discussion Cheeky http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9096 Trully humbled by a natural... http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9095&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:08:14 GMT A true a natural is a sight to behold. He was somebody who controls a conversation because he must. He was the definition of effortlessness. ... A true a natural is a sight to behold. He was somebody who controls a conversation because he must. He was the definition of effortlessness. This experience makes my climb to being a "true natural" quite daunting. You knew this guy became a natural through experience alone. My partially contrived voice became muted. I am so not a natural yet. It's going take some serious work. ]]> General Discussion SniperTron http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9095 <![CDATA[Let's say you're in a social group (in college...)]]> http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9094&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:58:43 GMT Q: What happens when you're trying to attract&seduce two or more people from the same social group? Do you get labeled a 'player' and thus shunned by your peers?

I would've placed this Q in a "Improving your social circle game" section if there was one, but there isn't... :( ]]> General Discussion NaturalGame11 http://www.naturalgame.com/showthread.php?t=9094